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First Love Church

in Costa Mesa, CA 92627 is
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
in their LGBTQ Policy
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
in their Women in Leadership Policy
LGBTQ Policy
Hires:
Weddings:
Ordains:
Leadership:
Women in Leadership Polcy
Preaches:
Ordains:
Governance:
Senior Pastor:
Updated on Nov 21, 2019

First Love Church

in Costa Mesa, CA 92627 is
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
in their LGBTQ Policy
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
in their Women in Leadership Policy
LGBTQ Policy
Hires:
Weddings:
Ordains:
Leadership:
Women in Leadership Polcy
Preaches:
Ordains:
Governance:
Senior Pastor:
Updated on Nov 21, 2019

Meeting Times:
Address
1945 Placentia Avenue
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
Leadership
Pastor:
Pete Cropsey
Gender:
Man
Race:
White
Pastor:
Gender:
Race:
Related Affiliations
Networks:
No items found.
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
Unclear: Non-Affirming
What does this score mean?
Score Links and notes

Its Score is Unclear because this congregation's actively enforced policy is not located on website's primary pages, but in a pastor's statement from a sermon given June 12th, 2013.

"It is at this time that the world will be plunged into a level of sin and hatred for God that is unprecedented in the history of the world.
Right now in our culture the church and the Holy Spirit are a force in the world that are keeping things from going completely out of control.
What has been the main obstacle of the movement to legalize same sex marriage?
The church.
What has been the main obstacle in the pro choice movement to legalize abortion?
Again the church.
In every instance where the world wants to accept, allow, condone or promote something that is immoral and against God the church is the main obstacle...

But if you asked me if the church has done well concerning the gay community I would say with the exception of ministries like Exodus and guys like Cy Chambers it has failed miserably.
The church has failed the gay community in two ways.
In ostracizing them in such a condemning way.
You have these ultra legalistic religious zealots, and I really think they are just a bunch of very stupid people who if they hadn’t found their own misguided interpretation of Jesus would have probably become white supremacists,
but you have them showing up at gay and lesbian rallies with big signs saying, “God Hates Queers!”
Does God hate gay people?
No God loves the sinner He just hates the sin.
Liberal theology that allows for the acceptance not of the gay person but of the gay life style.
We need to accept the gay person while holding to the biblical line on the lifestyle.
But what were the foremost sins in a community that had lost all awareness, fear or awe of God, I am speaking of Sodom.
They were primarily, homosexuality and all forms of perversion, and sorcery, which included the use of drugs and alcohol to fuel their lusts.
The world today is looking a lot like Sodom but it is nothing to compare to the way it is going to be after we are gone.
Now that I have painted such a bright and lovely picture let’s read our text for today."

This church’s discernment process is scheduled to conclude:
Will you hire LGBTQ+ people for any ministry role?
Will your church's clergy officiate a wedding for LGBTQ+ people?
Will your church ordain LGBTQ+ people?
Are there any LGBTQ+ people on your leadership team?
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
Undisclosed
What does this score mean?
Score Links and notes
We could not find a policy on Women in Leadership, so we scored this congregation's website as undisclosed. Bear in mind that there are no women with the title of Pastor and we could not determine whether women have preached sermons.
This church’s discernment process is scheduled to conclude:
Can women preach in the primary church service?
Can women be ordained (or recommended for ordination)?
Can women serve as elders or in all governing bodies?
Can women serve as senior pastor/minister?

Who currently serves as senior pastor or equivalent of your church?

Do women and/or non-binary folks make up 50% or more of your church’s leadership team?

How often do women and/or non-binary folks preach?

FAQ's About Our Appeal Process

What do you take or NOT take into account when scoring churches?

We take into account: public information available on church’s website, denomination’s website, and pastor’s statements (including social media).

We do not take into account: stories submitted by people, news articles, offline PDFs, etc.

That said, we do regularly link to the latter category of information (e.g. stories, news, PDF’s) in church entries, even if it doesn’t affect the church’s score. Feel free to email us with a story that you want to publish on our blog; we do not publish anonymous submissions.

What’s the difference between Clear and Unclear and Undisclosed?

Clear scores are given to churches whose policies can be easily found on their websites’ primary pages (e.g. About, Beliefs). The language in the policies is clear and contains all necessary information.

Unclear scores are given to churches whose policies are difficult to find on their websites (e.g. located in sermon archives, blogs). The language in the policies may also be unclear.

Undisclosed scores are given to churches whose websites provide inconclusive evidence as to the churches’ policies.

For more detail, see our Score Definitions page. Please note that we score Women in Leadership policy a bit differently than LGBTQ policy as we factor into account gender representation on leadership teams. Why? Because personnel is policy (H/T @BroderickGreer). Representation is essential.

What is the difference between Verified Clear and other scores? How does my church become Verified Clear?

All scores, except for “Verified Clear,” are assigned to churches by our volunteers based on our scoring definitions and publicly available information online. The “Verified Clear” score is the highest and best score a church can receive. It is also the only score that a church obtains by proactively self-disclosing its policies through our Verified Clear survey, which is sent to all churches that have been scored in our database. If you're a pastor at a church, email us to receive the survey.

I’m a church leader and I’d like our church website to be more clear. What can I do?

That’s great news! Take a look at our Scoring Definitions, to begin with, to understand the difference between Clear and Unclear websites. Then, read our Church Clarity resource PDF, “How to be clear: For Church leaders.” You can also email us to receive our Verified Clear survey so you can obtain the highest score available on our database.

Why is this church scored as "Unclear: Affirming"?

Please review the Score Links & Notes section for the rationale for this church's score.

There are typically two reasons. The first is that the church has a statement affirming "sexual orientation" but not "gender identity." Similarly, the church may mention they affirm people, "gay or straight," but not mention "transgender" folks.

The second reason is that the church does affirm the full LGBTQ+ spectrum, but it is hard to locate the church's affirmation statement on the church's website.

Please see our score definitions for more.

If you still have questions, email us.

Why is this church scored as "Unclear: Egalitarian"?

If a church has an egalitarian policy, we provide a Clear or Unclear score based on whether the leadership team consists of at least 50% women and/or non-binary people. If so, then the church will get a Clear: Egalitarian score. If the senior minister is a woman, then that counts too. If not, then the church will get an Unclear: Egalitarian score. We factor representation into our scoring for Women in Leadership. Why? See this. Additionally, if it's hard to locate the leadership team on the website, then we will also score the church as Unclear. For additional questions email us.

For more see our Scoring Definitions.

So is Church Clarity kinda like Yelp for Churches?

NO. Some people assume that our database exists to point LGBT people to LGBT-affirming churches, for instance, or to warn them about non-affirming churches. Although this is a common byproduct of our public database, it is actually not our primary goal. If that was so, then we would certainly enable people to post “personal reviews” of their experiences in churches, much in the way that Yelp does. But we don’t.

Our goal is to score churches for how clearly they communicate their actively enforced policies. It is a “communication” score above anything else. We cannot score based on the “reality of what happens in their congregations,” but rather based on their online presence. That is why we confine our scope purely to any online evidence available on a church’s website, on its denomination’s or network’s website, and any pastor statements.

We sometimes get emails from pastors and congregants telling us that the score we’ve given to a church does not accurately reflect what happens in their church. We always respond by saying, “That’s good to know; please update your website so that this information is publicly available and also consider becoming Verified Clear; we’d love to update your score.” Or, “Please provide us with online evidence of what you’re talking about on the church or denomination website, and we’d love to update the score.”

Why do we do this? Our goal is to motivate churches to become clear on their websites because that is presently the most visible advertisement to the public. Clarity is reasonable on your website. Sometimes this helps people find churches that are aligned with their values -- that’s great, but that is not our primary goal.

Why do we strongly believe that policies should be on websites? Great question. We have an answer for that in our FAQ.

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